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克里希那穆提冥思坊【言谈录】心能不能从琐碎中解脱？


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克里希那穆提冥思坊【言谈录】心能不能从琐碎中解脱？
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Here is a very good example of how conflict is brought into being: the conflict between what should be and what is. First we establish what should be, the ideal, and then try to live according to that pattern. We say that the mind should be occupied with noble things, with unselfishness, with generosity, with kindliness, with love; that is the pattern, the belief, the should be, the must, and we try to live accordingly.
想知道冲突是怎样形成的 ， 这里有个非常好的例子——应然和实然之间的冲突 。 首先 ， 我们确立一个应该怎样的想法 ， 确立一个理想 ， 然后就努力按照那个模式生活 。 我们说 ， 心应该被高贵、无私、慷慨、良善和爱所占据 。 那就是模式、信仰、应然、必然 ， 我们努力照此生活 。
So there is a conflict set going, between the projection of what should be and the actuality, the what is, and through that conflict we hope to be transformed. So long as we are struggling with the should be, we feel virtuous, we feel good, but which is important: the should be or what is?
所以 ， 在应然的投射和现实、实然之间存在着一套冲突 ， 我们希望通过冲突得到转变 。 只要我们挣扎于应然 ， 我们就感到自己是善的 ， 是好的 ， 但哪个更重要：应然还是实然？
With what are our minds occupied - actually, not ideologically? With trivialities, are they not? With how one looks, with ambition, with greed, with envy, with gossip, with cruelty. The mind lives in a world of trivialities and a trivial mind creating a noble pattern is still trivial, is it not? The question is not with what should the mind be occupied but can the mind free itself from trivialities?
我们的心被什么占据——不是理想的状态 ， 而是事实上被什么所占据？被琐事占据 ， 不是吗？被长相、野心、贪婪、嫉妒、闲话和残忍占据 。 心活在琐碎的世界中 ， 一颗琐碎的心所制造出来的高贵模式 ， 也仍然是琐碎的 ， 不是吗？问题不在于心应该被什么占据 ， 而是心能不能从琐碎中解脱？
If we are at all aware, if we are at all inquiring, we know our own particular trivialities: incessant talk, the everlasting chattering of the mind, worry over this and that, curiosity as to what people are doing or not doing, trying to achieve a result, groping after one's own aggrandizement and so on. With that we are occupied and we know it very well. Can that be transformed? That is the problem, is it not? To ask with what the mind should be occupied is mere immaturity.
如果有那么一点儿意识、有那么一点儿质疑的话 ， 我们都清楚自己特定的琐碎：没完没了的谈话 ， 喋喋不休的头脑 ， 担心这个担心那个 ， 探听别人在做什么没在做什么 ， 努力达成目标 ， 追求自我扩张 ， 等等 。 我们被什么占据 ， 我们知道得很清楚 。 可以转变吗？那就是问题 ， 不是吗？去询问心应该被什么占据 ， 这说明你不成熟 。
Now, being aware that my mind is trivial and occupied with trivialities, can it free itself from this condition? Is not the mind, by its very nature, trivial? What is the mind but the result of memory? Memory of what? Of how to survive, not only physically but also psychologically through the development of certain qualities, virtues, the storing up of experiences, the establishing of itself in its own activities. Is that not trivial?


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